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THE NUCLEAR ROUNDTABLE
Securing Fissile Material in the Former Soviet Union
Deputy Secretary of Energy Charles B. Curtis
Secretary Curtis is chief operating officer of the Department of Energy with direct
responsibility for all defense, national security, energy, science and
technology programs. These are his comments to the Roundtable on February
28, 1996.
February 28, 1996
The defense responsibilities of the Department of Energy (DOE) range from
providing for the support of nuclear deterrence in the absence of testing,
to being an effective advocate for the dismantlement of nuclear weapons,
to fostering nuclear safety and, importantly for these purposes, to
securing fissile materials anywhere in the world, particularly focused
these days on the former Soviet states. Our activities to secure materials
tend to group into efforts to secure them at the site and to make it
possible to remove and dispose of them. We want to engage the Russians in
cooperative agreements for the disposition of these dangerous materials.
Such programs focus on:
- Materials protection, control and accounting (MPC&A)
- The U.S. purchase of weapons-grade materials from the former Soviet
Union, which takes the present form of the Russian HEU deal
- The plutonium production reactor shut-down to help the Russians
conclude the production of weapons-grade plutonium at Tomsk and
Krasnoyarsk
- Disposal of surplus fissile materials.
In these informal remarks, I will focus particularly on
the MPC&A activities.
First, I want to say, and clearly say, that the nuclear materials in
the former Soviet Union are very, I mean very, vulnerable to theft and
black market transaction. Our intelligence estimates determine that
weapons-usable materials are located in 80 to 100 facilities (buildings)
at some 40 sites, mostly in Russia, but also in the Ukraine, Belarus,
Kazakhstan, Latvia, Uzbekistan and Georgia.
The analysis of known smuggling incidents identify the materials as
probably originating from research-oriented activities in Russia, not from
weapons activities. All of the facilities in Russia need major MPC&A
improvements to replace what was a labor-intensive, surveillance-based
system of materials control with a dependable technology-based substitute.
The Russians were highly dependent on guards, guns and gates. But the
Russians added to these guards, guns and gates restrictions on movement
and surveillance systems largely exercised through the Communist Party.
After the break up of the Soviet Union, they lost both the restrictions on
movement and the surveillance system of the Communist Party, an estimated
(by some) 50 - 60 percent loss in their security system. We are trying to
help replace that with a technology-based substitute.
Obstacles: Efforts under the earlier days of the Nunn-Lugar
program to implement MPC&A in the former Soviet Union through
government-to-government agreements were generally frustrated by a
combination of factors.
First and foremost of these is the lack of trust between former
adversaries trying to agree on matters critical to national security
programs. Overcoming that lack of trust is a significant hurdle and a
barrier to progress.
It was also a problem gaining government-to-government permission
required for agreements for MPC&A. A big part of that is the lack of a
declassification system in the former Soviet Union that parallels what we
have in the U.S. So, all the cooperation and all the former Soviet Union
participants in that cooperation were at risk of being second-guessed any
time they provided sensitive information.
In the Spring of 1994, the DOE tried a different tack with the
"Lab-to-Lab" program between Russian institutes and our national
laboratories. The "Lab-to-Lab" program, run out of the DOE
Non-Proliferation Office, was designed to build trust -- to overcome the
old Cold War mistrust. The program has built a strong advocacy for
cooperation in the scientific community. It is important to note that
government permission was not required, only acquiescence. Russia and the
former Soviet republics have willingly advertized this "Lab-to-Lab"
program, and we celebrate the success of this collaboration together.
DOE's role in securing fissile material in the former Soviet Union is
not to do it for them, but to help them develop indigenous capabilities
based upon U.S. materials and technology. Funding is not the foremost
problem, the problem is expanding the opportunities to work on securing
their fissile materials. Trust is still the issue here. We are addressing
the most urgent concerns based upon a joint plan.
Successes:
- Increased funding from $2 million in1994 to $26 million in 1995 and
$70 million for 1996; a budget authority of over $400 million is
requested for fiscal years 1996 - 2002.
- Fissile material secured in the former Soviet Union increased from
only kilograms in 1994 to over 8 tons of highly enriched uranium (HEU)
and plutonium in 1995 with plans to secure hundreds of tons of HEU and
plutonium at the Mayak and Obninsk facilities, where materials were very
vulnerable to theft.
- Expanding the scope of work from one facility in 1994, to 26 in
1995, to over 30 planned for 1996 following the Gore-Chernomyrdin
Commission (GCC) meetings in February 1996.
- U.S. and Russian scientists have jointly developed MPC&A methods
and technologies for use throughout the MINATOM nuclear weapons complex
and progress is being made on Arzamas-16 and Tomsk-7 sites. Some of the
more useful devices have been eveloped in the former Soviet Union.
- The Arzamas lab developed a system that takes a "nuclear
fingerprint" of the material in a container. If any part of that nuclear
fingerprint changes, the passport system will reveal there has been some
invasion of the integrity of the container.
- At Kurchatov Institute in Building 116, there were thousands of
plutonium and HEU pellets in storage rooms at the street level, locked
with only a padlock, with no armed guards and with open doors. This
building is now secured by a portal monitor.
- Outside of Russia: Project Sapphire. The U.S. purchased, provided
physical protection for, and exported 600 kg of fissile material from
Kazakhstan. These materials are now being blended down in the U.S. into
commercial-grade fissile material (LEU) under IAEA supervision. Part of
the urgency of getting the material out was information suggesting that
it was particularly at risk from Iran - the intelligence information
pretty clearly indicated Iran.
- Under the U.S.-Russian 1993 HEU Agreement, the U.S. will purchase
500 tons HEU from former Soviet nuclear weapons, including former Soviet
weapons based in Ukraine. This agreement was central to Ukraine becoming
part of the NPT.
- The Industrial Partnering Program (IPP), sponsored in 1994 by
Senator Pete Dominici, is a complimentary program to MPC&A efforts
in the Lab-to-Lab program. It works to provide employment for former
Soviet nuclear weapons personnel to prevent fissile materials diversion
and a "brain drain" to rogue states nuclear weapons programs.
DOE's IPP efforts concentrate on providing employment for
nuclear, chemical and biological weapons scientists, engineers and
technicians. We are working through our IPP program on the problem of
preventing former Soviet scientists from working for rogue states. IPP
defense conversion plans include growth from 34 partnership agreements in
1994 with private industries and former Russian defense industries, to
over 200 partnerships in 1996. Each dollar DOE invests is more than
matched by the U.S. private sector, with the result that roughly 2,000
former weapons scientists are being employed for peaceful purposes.
Another proliferation concern is the Middle East. Energy demand
projections to 2010 predict 25 billion barrels of oil per day will be
needed. Fifteen billion of these barrels will be from the Persian Gulf.
Accumulated, this will mean one to two trillion dollars of additional
revenue going into that unstable region, likely accenting the future
proliferation problem.
The threat of proliferation of nuclear materials is also from inside.
Azamas-16 has 90,000 people still living in "closed-city" conditions
without enough work to do or enough funding, and with access to easily
portable fissile materials. Oblinsk, a site I visited, had thousands of
discs which anyone could easily steal. Now we have portal monitors at all
(DOE-assisted) secured facilities, up to 30 secured facilities by 1996.
But we will still have to be lucky in the process to achieve our goals.
In the dismantlement process, we want to basically get a "chain of
custody" so that we can show that this material is coming out of weapons.
This potentially requires us to be in places they don't want us to be in
and sometimes to see and confirm materials that have "classified shapes."
We've developed this program we call "pit in a pot." We basically take
the pit from a weapon -- in essence the primary -- and put it in a
55-gallon drum. We've developed a system where we can gain mutual
assurance that there is a disabled pit in there. We can easily do it
knowing there is nuclear material in there without revealing the internals
of the classified shape. We are trying to solve this problem through an
exchange of classified information agreement to address those types of
projects."
A journalist who has written extensively on this issue noted that:
"Secretary Curtis conveyed to me what was the most striking aspect of this
situation: the scale of the problem is so large in contrast to the
resources available and the ability to put those resources into action. I
am somewhat skeptical that, in the time frame we are talking about, we can
prevent the leakage of some of these materials. The difficulty is that it
doesn't take much leakage, but even some could have a big impact on
someone's weapons program. I agree with Secretary Curtis: we must do
whatever we can do, but we will still have to be lucky."
Secretary Curtis answered questions from the Roundtable:
- There is reason to believe that these materials are at risk from
certain usual suspects in the Middle East.
- If naval nuclear propulsion materials are in institutes and
laboratories, as opposed to fuel fabrication facilities, then we are
getting a hold of it through the MPA&C program on Lab-to-Lab. We
are, with the DOD, also engaged in a process to get access to the naval
facilities to secure the materials there. That is a trickier issue that
we are working on with DOD.
- There is no evidence of support in the Russian Duma for these
activities. The Duma's posture here is more one of stopping what we're
doing than showing support. The program still works because it does not
require their explicit permission, only their acquiescence.
Notes by Leigh Anne Miller
Participants:
- Bill Ashworth, Foreign Relations Committee
- Terry Atlas, Chicago
Tribune
- Joseph Cirincione, The Henry L. Stimson
Center
- Michael Dawson, Embassy of
Canada
- Gerald Epstein, Office
of Science Technology Policy
- Steven Fetter, University
of Maryland, CISSM
- Alex Flint, Energy & Water Subcommittee
- Teresa Hitchens, Defense
News
- Bill Hoehn, Armed
Services Committee
- Jeff Hughes, Department of Energy
- William Kistner,
Frontline
- Michael Krepon, The Henry L. Stimson
Center
- Debra Lau, Yomiuri
Shimbun
- Robert Manning, Progressive Policy
Institute
- Michael Mazarr, Center for Science and International Studies
- Leigh Anne Miller, The Henry L. Stimson
Center
- Ken Myers, III, Office of Senator Lugar
- Roy Phillips, Governmental Reform
& Oversight Committee
- Valentine Rybakoz, Embassy of the Republic of Belarus
- Michael Shuster,National
Public Radio
- R. Jeffrey Smith, Washington Post
- John Steinbruner, Brookings Institution
- Leonard Weiss, Senate Governmental Affairs Committee
- Jon Wolfsthal, Department of
Energy
- Alex Yereskovsky, Embassy of the Russian Republic
- Tom Zamora Collina, ISIS
- Tim Zimmerman, U.S. News &
World Report
Department of Energy
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Nonproliferation and Nuclear Threat Reduction Initiatives
R.
Jeffrey Smith, "Nuclear
Theft Potential Worries U.S. : DOE Plans $330 Million Boost in Security at
Sites in the Ex-Soviet Union." Washington Post February 29,
1996, Sec. A p. 14.
Department of Energy, Office of
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The
Nuclear Roundtable with Dr. Ashton B. Carter, Department of Defense, Nunn-Lugar Efforts in
Russia under DOD's Cooperative Threat Reduction Project, November 16,
1995, Washington, D.C.
The
Nuclear Roundtable with Alexander Yereskovsky, Rodney Jones and Leonard
Spector, US-Russian
Relations After the Duma Elections, January 4, 1996, Washington, DC.
Soviet Nuclear
Power Plant Designs from the International Nuclear Saftey Center
Database. Includes a link to a map of the reactor sites
U.S.
Department of State. Home Page
on the Newly Independent States of the Former Soviet Union.
Includes daily news updates.
Department of Energy, Office of
Nonproliferation and National Security.
Department of Energy. Declassified
Facts About the U.S. Nuclear Stockpile
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